My RV lights were acting very crazy for 3 days, then got very dim. After looking allover for the problem, I got the idea of checking the battery (1). It was in the plastic tub filled with water to the posts. I went out and got a new battery and all was good till the lights started to get dim again but not acting crazy. Any ideas or suggestions would be greatly appreciated because I'm going to go nuts. This is all new to me but I removed the plastic tub. Is it possible that the new battery is not recharging ? Thank you !
Hornet Sport 30 Ft. Electrical Problem
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C Nash
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Re: Hornet Sport 30 Ft. Electrical Problem
Probably a converter problem. Check the fuse on the converter it may have blown when the water got to the battery post. Welcome to the forum. Let us know which converter you have and maybe we can tel you where the fuse is located. Welcome to the forum
Probably a converter problem. Check the fuse on the converter it may have blown when the water got to the battery post. Welcome to the forum. Let us know which converter you have and maybe we can tel you where the fuse is located. Welcome to the forum
Re: Hornet Sport 30 Ft. "30BHSS" Electrical Problem
Thank you C Nash ! I looked everywhere for the fuse and could not find it. The board is under the electrical panel/box. This is a hard plastic casing with the fuses and brakers on the front top and the transformer board on the bottom. I could not find names just numbers. 8855 and the panel #04W04C620658
Yea it appears that the battery is working but after one to two nights it looses power. Then it will work once we don't use the lights for some time which means it must be charging.
I can't believe that the manufacture would place a battery in a plastic tub with NO drain holes. Everything was good till it filled with water to the posts.
Thank you !!
Thank you C Nash ! I looked everywhere for the fuse and could not find it. The board is under the electrical panel/box. This is a hard plastic casing with the fuses and brakers on the front top and the transformer board on the bottom. I could not find names just numbers. 8855 and the panel #04W04C620658
Yea it appears that the battery is working but after one to two nights it looses power. Then it will work once we don't use the lights for some time which means it must be charging.
I can't believe that the manufacture would place a battery in a plastic tub with NO drain holes. Everything was good till it filled with water to the posts.
Thank you !!
G
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Re: Hornet Sport 30 Ft. "30BHSS" Electrical Problem
not to be mean or hatefull ,, but what do u mean that the battery tub was filled with water ,, it does not work that way ,, and if u refilled it with the new battery ,, u are prolly getting a drain thru the water ,, let alone a short ,, that might be where u'r problem lies ,, IMO get rid of the tub ,, and just mount the battery in ,, as for the battery working ok while not using any lights ,, it will do that ,, a good batt ,, will regain most ,, and i say most of it's charge back ,, but try this ,, loose the tub ,, and see what happens ,, if u want the tub in the batt compartment ,, then drill some holes in it ,, to let the water drain ,, but there agian JMO
And btw Welcome to the forums ,, please post us back on how it turns out :approve: :approve:
not to be mean or hatefull ,, but what do u mean that the battery tub was filled with water ,, it does not work that way ,, and if u refilled it with the new battery ,, u are prolly getting a drain thru the water ,, let alone a short ,, that might be where u'r problem lies ,, IMO get rid of the tub ,, and just mount the battery in ,, as for the battery working ok while not using any lights ,, it will do that ,, a good batt ,, will regain most ,, and i say most of it's charge back ,, but try this ,, loose the tub ,, and see what happens ,, if u want the tub in the batt compartment ,, then drill some holes in it ,, to let the water drain ,, but there agian JMO
And btw Welcome to the forums ,, please post us back on how it turns out :approve: :approve:
TexasClodhopper
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Re: Hornet Sport 30 Ft. Electrical Problem
Oh boy ... Rod you done it again. That's OK, you're still our friend. :clown:
Oh boy ... Rod you done it again. That's OK, you're still our friend. :clown:
C Nash
Senior Member
Re: Hornet Sport 30 Ft. Electrical Problem
Think we must be confused as to what Walter is talking about . Guess the first thing I would do is find where the water is coming from or maybe he is just talking about the water/acid IN the battery which is supposed to be there. Still think he has a charging problem from the converter. We need more info Walter.
Think we must be confused as to what Walter is talking about
. Guess the first thing I would do is find where the water is coming from or maybe he is just talking about the water/acid IN the battery which is supposed to be there. Still think he has a charging problem from the converter. We need more info Walter.
elkhartjim
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Re: Hornet Sport 30 Ft. Electrical Problem
How do we know if he has an invertor? Does he have any kind of charger? It works fine for a couple days and then the lights start to dim....thats a clue. If you replace the battery every couple days i'm sure it will continue to work for a "couple days" before the lights start to dim.
Wonder if he has a tt, mh, pop up or maybe he's powering the light bulb in a tent. Have you noticed how cynical I've become since Obamanation and his henchmen have started turning our country into a socialist republic?
How do we know if he has an invertor? Does he have any kind of charger? It works fine for a couple days and then the lights start to dim....thats a clue. If you replace the battery every couple days i'm sure it will continue to work for a "couple days" before the lights start to dim.
Wonder if he has a tt, mh, pop up or maybe he's powering the light bulb in a tent. Have you noticed how cynical I've become since Obamanation and his henchmen have started turning our country into a socialist republic?
G
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Re: Hornet Sport 30 Ft. Electrical Problem
ok now what did i say wrong ??? i took it as the tub was filled with water ,, and yes in know it should not be ,, getting in somewhere ,, but as u all said OP did not say outside the batt or inside ,, guess i screwed up agian ,, as usal :disapprove: :disapprove:
ok now what did i say wrong ??? i took it as the tub was filled with water ,, and yes in know it should not be ,, getting in somewhere ,, but as u all said OP did not say outside the batt or inside ,, guess i screwed up agian ,, as usal :disapprove: :disapprove:
C Nash
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Re: Hornet Sport 30 Ft. Electrical Problem
Didn't see where you said anything wrong Rod. We were all kind of in the dark, or I was, as to what he was really talking about. I took it that the battery had one of those plastic tubs like most boats have and it was full of water. That would drain a battery for sure. Though ,dangerous for me, maybe Walter would come back with a little more info. Come on Walter straighten us out.
Didn't see where you said anything wrong Rod. We were all kind of in the dark, or I was, as to what he was really talking about. I took it that the battery had one of those plastic tubs like most boats have and it was full of water. That would drain a battery for sure. Though ,dangerous for me, maybe Walter would come back with a little more info. Come on Walter straighten us out.
TexasClodhopper
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Re: Hornet Sport 30 Ft. Electrical Problem
Ahh, Rod, just kidding you a little. Walter already said he removed the plastic bucket that the battery was in, so we know he didn't refill it. :clown:
I'm like ya'll, we need some details like battery voltage with the charger disconnected and battery voltage with the battery connected, and etc. etc. etc.
Ahh, Rod, just kidding you a little. Walter already said he removed the plastic bucket that the battery was in, so we know he didn't refill it. :clown:
I'm like ya'll, we need some details like battery voltage with the charger disconnected and battery voltage with the battery connected, and etc. etc. etc.
TexasClodhopper
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Re: Hornet Sport 30 Ft. Electrical Problem
Look out for that tree! Yaaahhhhh! Too late! :clown:
Look out for that tree! Yaaahhhhh! Too late! :clown:
Kirk
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Re: Hornet Sport 30 Ft. Electrical Problem
wvazquew,
You don't really give us a great deal to go on, but my first question is, where did that water come from? Most batteries are located in a plastic battery box to prevent any leakage of electrolyte from causing damage to the structure of the RV. I would never keep a battery which is in use in any location with nothing to prevent damage from electrolyte. It is an acid and it will do very serious harm. Rather than to do away with the plastic battery box, you need to determine how it got full of water. Also, any space with one or more wet cell batteries should be ventilated as the normal action of charging the battery will create hydrogen which could be explosive.
Now to the problem at hand. Before you replaced the battery did you do any trouble shooting? Do you know if the converter is supplying any voltage, and if so, at what voltage? It should supply a constant open circuit voltage of about 13.5V. Anything less will not recharge the battery sufficiently and higher will boil out the electrolyte. To check the converter, the easy way is to remove the cables from the battery and with shore power connected, check the voltage between the disconnected cables. If the converter is working to charge a battery, it should then read about 13.5V. If significantly less there will be charge problems and if 0V, you have no converter output.
The mentioned fuse will usually be found on the inside of the 120V/12V converter. You will likely need to remove the cover and before doing so, unplug the converter and remove the positive battery cable to be sure that you won't get a shock. The only way to know for sure about a fuse is to check that with and ohm meter. A good fuse will read 0 ohms.
wvazquew,
You don't really give us a great deal to go on, but my first question is, where did that water come from? Most batteries are located in a plastic battery box to prevent any leakage of electrolyte from causing damage to the structure of the RV. I would never keep a battery which is in use in any location with nothing to prevent damage from electrolyte. It is an acid and it will do very serious harm. Rather than to do away with the plastic battery box, you need to determine how it got full of water. Also, any space with one or more wet cell batteries should be ventilated as the normal action of charging the battery will create hydrogen which could be explosive.
Now to the problem at hand. Before you replaced the battery did you do any trouble shooting? Do you know if the converter is supplying any voltage, and if so, at what voltage? It should supply a constant open circuit voltage of about 13.5V. Anything less will not recharge the battery sufficiently and higher will boil out the electrolyte. To check the converter, the easy way is to remove the cables from the battery and with shore power connected, check the voltage between the disconnected cables. If the converter is working to charge a battery, it should then read about 13.5V. If significantly less there will be charge problems and if 0V, you have no converter output.
The mentioned fuse will usually be found on the inside of the 120V/12V converter. You will likely need to remove the cover and before doing so, unplug the converter and remove the positive battery cable to be sure that you won't get a shock. The only way to know for sure about a fuse is to check that with and ohm meter. A good fuse will read 0 ohms.
Re: Hornet Sport 30 Ft. Electrical Problem
Oh God !! You guys all sound to well informed when it come to RV's. I feel like a nut in a basket of oranges. I'm sorry I confused everyone. I did remove the tub and my battery is out in front on my "V" shape frame where it get's pulled from. Believe it or not, this tub had holes on the top of the case and none on the bottom. It got filled with rain water.
This is all new to me so please forgive my ignorance. But, I'm happy to see that you all have a good sense humor and made me laugh. We are talking about a 2007 Hornet sport made by Keystone, 30 feet long. Not a pop-up !! Power all runs on 110 when hooked up on a camp site excepted the lights (inside living lights). When on the road or when no power is available, the power for the water pump and lights comes from this Battery. I did open the the panel box and found what could be the converter but it's a solid state board with what looks like a small transformer. No fuse !! I will try to take a picture and post it. Kirk, I'll a meeter and take the reading you say.
Thank you much all !!!!
Walter
Oh God !! You guys all sound to well informed when it come to RV's. I feel like a nut in a basket of oranges. I'm sorry I confused everyone. I did remove the tub and my battery is out in front on my "V" shape frame where it get's pulled from. Believe it or not, this tub had holes on the top of the case and none on the bottom. It got filled with rain water.
This is all new to me so please forgive my ignorance. But, I'm happy to see that you all have a good sense humor and made me laugh. We are talking about a 2007 Hornet sport made by Keystone, 30 feet long. Not a pop-up !! Power all runs on 110 when hooked up on a camp site excepted the lights (inside living lights). When on the road or when no power is available, the power for the water pump and lights comes from this Battery. I did open the the panel box and found what could be the converter but it's a solid state board with what looks like a small transformer. No fuse !! I will try to take a picture and post it. Kirk, I'll a meeter and take the reading you say.
Thank you much all !!!!
Walter
Grandview Trailer Sa
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Re: Hornet Sport 30 Ft. Electrical Problem
Batttery boxes will fill with water. For some reason, the makers of the box will vent the top cover and not have holes in the bottom box. Rain water will come in and has no where to go. We always drill holes in the bottom box when we prep a new trailer.
With your meter make sure you have around 13.5 volts coming from the converter. IF you have less voltage than that, but some voltage, your converter is bad. IF you have ZERO voltage, look for a fuse. IF you have have around 13.5 volts coming from the converter, your battery is bad.
Let us know what you find.
Batttery boxes will fill with water. For some reason, the makers of the box will vent the top cover and not have holes in the bottom box. Rain water will come in and has no where to go. We always drill holes in the bottom box when we prep a new trailer.
With your meter make sure you have around 13.5 volts coming from the converter. IF you have less voltage than that, but some voltage, your converter is bad. IF you have ZERO voltage, look for a fuse. IF you have have around 13.5 volts coming from the converter, your battery is bad.
Let us know what you find.
Re: Hornet Sport 30 Ft. Electrical Problem
I'll be away for the next two weeks, but when back, I'll let everyone know my findings. By the way, I did replace the battery and the new battery is doing the same thing. I'll take pictures and the readings you all say.
Thank you !
Walter
I'll be away for the next two weeks, but when back, I'll let everyone know my findings. By the way, I did replace the battery and the new battery is doing the same thing. I'll take pictures and the readings you all say.
Thank you !
Walter
C Nash
Senior Member
Re: Hornet Sport 30 Ft. Electrical Problem
Walter still think you will have some type problem with the converter. Bad connection, wire, fuse or shot converter. Start with the meter reading and trouble shoot back to the converter checking for the voltage Ken and Kirk suggested. The water could have very well shorted the system and just blew the fuse located at the converter. Yours may have another system that I have not seen.
Walter still think you will have some type problem with the converter. Bad connection, wire, fuse or shot converter. Start with the meter reading and trouble shoot back to the converter checking for the voltage Ken and Kirk suggested. The water could have very well shorted the system and just blew the fuse located at the converter. Yours may have another system that I have not seen.