I have owned both brands in the past 4 years and I literally ended-up giving my Cpachman away. It was of poor quality and workmanship. I tried to sell it for much less than what I paid for it and couldn't so we donated it to a local charity.
I love our new 07' Keystone Springdale.
Like I have said previously the posts are asking our opinion. What are we supposed to say? Oh, they are both wonderful. Or none of the products have any problems. Come on, if somebody wants an opinion before they buy, it is our obligation to tell them what we think. If they didn't want an answer they wouldn't be asking the question. Maybe we should just ignore all of the brand comparison questions. You know, put our heads in the sand. I'm sure everyone would get tired of no responses and go to a different forum. I'm going to tell it the way I see it. If you don't like the answer, ignore it. :laugh:
I have to agree with DL Rupper here! Being complete green to the field of RVing, inquiring minds need to know where the pitfalls are in order to avoid them. Based on this forum alone, I've learned which models to avoid, which brands to seriously consider and have ruled out a Ford Super Duty all together. :bleh: Apologies in advance for offending any Ford diehards. I've had too many of my own experiences, coupled with what I've seen here. Let's just say it's enough to cure you.
But that isn't based solely on the ops. expressed here. I am researching as much as I can on my own and making the necessary comparisons as a discriminate thinker. However, if there is a lower quality product out there being misrepresented, you better believe I want a heads up about it. I may still look at those other brands to form my own opinion, just with a much more skeptical eye. And isn't that fair enough? Shouldn't a product in the N. American free market be able to hold up under scrutiny of the discerning eye of a consumer? :laugh:
There is absolutely NO EXCUSE for an American manufacturer of ANYTHING to put out a bad product like some of these we are talking about.
We have more technology at hand to design, test, and build things than anyone else in the world.
And yet, a person on the assembly line will still stuff a wiring harness into an RV without connecting it at both ends. It happens with every manufacturer.
And that, ARCHER, is why no one is mad at your comment about being tired of reading about it -- we all are. But, there is no other way to keep ahead of the game, as DL says, "... tell it the way I see it ...."