I just cant win for nothin. My computer has been giving me fits for a few weeks now and I have run a bunch of tests to figure out the problem as well as talked to two different hp techs about it and having them run their own tests. The results are a bad harddrive. I am taking my computer to the shop come saturday and see about getting it fixed. I have no idea how long I will be down. I told the missus I may buy another pc to have one hand for problems or if nothing else to update my system which is only two years old and yet, is already out of date according to HP, they too recommended I buy a new pc. LOL so much for hp techs helping. I put an ad in the paper for today and next tuesday on the stuff I am trying to sell, we shall see what happens and hope for the best.