Thank you all for all the challenging questions I really had fun but I have come to realization I took on a little more than I could chew LOL. I will be retiring from this forum. That does not mean I will not answer questions that no one seems to be able to help with. Please feel free to E-mail me here at Pacific Detroit Diesel Allison in Ridgefield, WA or stop by. My E-mail is email@example.com. Our adress is 600 S. 56th Pl. directly west off of Interstate 5 exit 14 in Ridgfield,WA. This will be the last time I post this saying LOL "Thanks and have a great day!"