We decided to purchase a good clean well maintained pusher recently. While I have never bought one I was in on my father buying two new Dutch Star coaches. I know what he paid I know what he had when he traded first in on second and I know what he got for his trade. I now have spent three weekends on the road looking at 50k to 75k dealer priced coaches. All of these coaches are not well maintained and are filthy inside and out, they are really 30k to 45k units. I upped my budget to 100k but the problem I have is knowing if they traded for a coach they will give less than NADA low retail with no options factored in. They then price it really close to high retail with all options selected. I understand they have overhead and have to make money but I also know that they have way more than 5k markup in each coach, which is about what they try to tell me. Has anyone else delt with this and how do you get past this hurdle to get a quality coach at a reasonable price? I am not going to pay 100k for a coach that is 10 years old and sold for 135k to 150k new.